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Re: Ask Questions Here - ReHIPS Features & Unexpected Behaviors
« Reply #135 on: June 10, 2016, 03:27:12 pm »
How may I do that?

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Re: Ask Questions Here - ReHIPS Features & Unexpected Behaviors
« Reply #136 on: June 10, 2016, 03:30:24 pm »
Settings, programs, expand the windows username, find palemoon rules, double click,expand the menu with the arrows at the bottom and show me the second tab called permissions.
This or go to logs and click palemoon.

Never mind i figured it out. Go to the permissions and deselect Use Different Desktop and DESKTOP_HOOKCONTROL. Now it should work.
Problem is that it doesn't restart when on a different desktop. Will make a bug topic so devs can check it out and also make default rules for palemoon.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2016, 03:34:10 pm by aDVll »

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Re: Ask Questions Here - ReHIPS Features & Unexpected Behaviors
« Reply #137 on: June 10, 2016, 03:33:30 pm »
That setting is also the exact setting for Pale Moon.

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Re: Ask Questions Here - ReHIPS Features & Unexpected Behaviors
« Reply #138 on: June 10, 2016, 03:35:02 pm »
Check my edit. I explained to you what to do to solve your problem. It's how you made the rule and possible even a bug.

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Re: Ask Questions Here - ReHIPS Features & Unexpected Behaviors
« Reply #139 on: June 10, 2016, 03:38:23 pm »
Yes! It worked!
Thanks for the help, aDVII!

Also, I just noticed the red border now. Didn't see that yet, until now. :)

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Re: Ask Questions Here - ReHIPS Features & Unexpected Behaviors
« Reply #140 on: June 10, 2016, 03:39:43 pm »
Yes! It worked!
Thanks for the help, aDVII!

Also, I just noticed the red border now. Didn't see that yet, until now. :)
Glad you solved it. Hopefully in the future Palemoon will have default rules as they should be.

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Re: Ask Questions Here - ReHIPS Features & Unexpected Behaviors
« Reply #141 on: June 10, 2016, 03:40:59 pm »
But, with that de-selection of options for Pale Moon, does it mean lesser protection for it?

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Re: Ask Questions Here - ReHIPS Features & Unexpected Behaviors
« Reply #142 on: June 10, 2016, 03:44:47 pm »
But, with that de-selection of options for Pale Moon, does it mean lesser protection for it?
No. When hook control is off then different desktop can be off. Reason that when creating rules both are selected is that a lot of programs don't work without hook control. So to avoid people being mortified that it doesn't work it's better to have default both selected so that at least it works. Less convenience on a different desktop but it will work 100%.
In browsers case usually hook control is not needed so you can disable both as you saw with Palemoon just now.

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Re: Ask Questions Here - ReHIPS Features & Unexpected Behaviors
« Reply #143 on: June 10, 2016, 03:47:06 pm »
But, with that de-selection of options for Pale Moon, does it mean lesser protection for it?
No. When hook control is off then different desktop can be off. Reason that when creating rules both are selected is that a lot of programs don't work without hook control. So to avoid people being mortified that it doesn't work it's better to have default both selected so that at least it works. Less convenience on a different desktop but it will work 100%.
In browsers case usually hook control is not needed so you can disable both as you saw with Palemoon just now.

Okay, got it! Thanks!

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Re: Ask Questions Here - ReHIPS Features & Unexpected Behaviors
« Reply #144 on: June 10, 2016, 09:07:04 pm »
I looked into Firefox restart issue. Firefox restarts itself by starting its process and exiting. But when it starts process, winsta0/default is explicitly set as window station and desktop. But it's meant to be executed on isolated desktop and has no access rights to the main default desktop. So this new process is started and immediately terminated as it can't access desktop. So it's Firefox bug (feature?), that it's ignorant of other desktops, and ReHIPS can do nothing about it. Fortunately latest Firefox versions don't need HOOK_CONTROL access right and may be executed on main desktop.

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Re: Ask Questions Here - ReHIPS Features & Unexpected Behaviors
« Reply #145 on: June 11, 2016, 03:14:21 am »
@fixer

Do you mean Pale Moon? It's based on Goanna engine now, a fork of Gecko engine 2x.x version.
I thought Firefox works well because you didn't experience the restart issue earlier.

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Re: Ask Questions Here - ReHIPS Features & Unexpected Behaviors
« Reply #146 on: June 11, 2016, 03:54:29 am »
2. If the browser is already open in the isolated account, then I switched to the main account, and then open the browser again using its shortcut in the main account, it would say "Pale Moon is already running..." and then closes.
This is browser behavior, it was coded to do so. I don't think ReHIPS can affect it in any way.

I actually meant the shortcut in the taskbar, so that clicking it will be like restoring a minimized program. I was thinking that it should just open the isolated browser, rather than anything else. But if this is not possible or just impractical, I'm still okay with that. ;)

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Re: Ask Questions Here - ReHIPS Features & Unexpected Behaviors
« Reply #147 on: June 11, 2016, 09:50:17 am »
@fixer

Do you mean Pale Moon? It's based on Goanna engine now, a fork of Gecko engine 2x.x version.
I thought Firefox works well because you didn't experience the restart issue earlier.
Firefox was running on same desktop as you made palemoon do later that's why it was restarting.

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Re: Ask Questions Here - ReHIPS Features & Unexpected Behaviors
« Reply #148 on: June 11, 2016, 10:56:21 am »
@fixer

Do you mean Pale Moon? It's based on Goanna engine now, a fork of Gecko engine 2x.x version.
I thought Firefox works well because you didn't experience the restart issue earlier.
Firefox was running on same desktop as you made palemoon do later that's why it was restarting.
Ah, so, by default rules of ReHIPS, Firefox is running without those options like separate desktop?

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Re: Ask Questions Here - ReHIPS Features & Unexpected Behaviors
« Reply #149 on: June 11, 2016, 10:59:22 am »
@fixer

Do you mean Pale Moon? It's based on Goanna engine now, a fork of Gecko engine 2x.x version.
I thought Firefox works well because you didn't experience the restart issue earlier.
Firefox was running on same desktop as you made palemoon do later that's why it was restarting.
Ah, so, by default rules of ReHIPS, Firefox is running without those options like separate desktop?
Correct. Palemoon will do the same on next version. It was added in the database.